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  Retirement savings

  by TxNVSue2023 in

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  what's the current jw stance on retirement savings?

  i know it changed.

  pre1975 it was an attitude of "don't worry about retirement, this system is ending soon".

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  Nathan Natas

  
  TxNVSue2023, don't you see the irony in the fact that here you have a concrete, real-world example of a Watchtower teaching that has had a serious negative effect on the financial lives of faithful JWs, possibly even yourself, and your conviction that JW.org is the "true religion"?

  Jehovah God must have some sort of mental disease to be the source of suffering (through intentionally misleading unwise teachings) for the people he claims as his own. Would you inflict this kind of abuse on your own children or ANY child?

  NO! The intentionally misleading unwise teachings of The Watchtower come from men; ignorant, foolish men who live a life of cloistered ease while they bleed their impoverished "flock" for more and more money, much of which is used the pay the settlements of lawsuits brought by members who have suffered extreme abuse at the hands of some of these ignorant, foolish, deviant men. Where is the guidance of the Holy Spirit?
  
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  Sagely advice of a CO

  by Vidqun in

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  “a circuit overseer started out by saying that on this last round of the circuit, the one thing he noticed the most...is that everyone is physically, mentally, emotionally and spiritually drained...and that cuts across all barriers and demographics within the truth.

  he then said that the one common thread that ran among nearly everyone was this: we feel guilty for feeling bad.

  he said because we are told to endure with joy, our minds can cause us to feel enormous guilt over feeling this way...and then, my dear brothers and sisters...he proceeded to blow our collective minds.. he asked us to turn to daniel 8:27….

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  Isn't it WONDERFUL that the C.O. was able to use the Book Of Fables to assuage the ennui of the exhausted and depressed Brothers and Sisters?

  Revitalizing "water" flowing from the culvert beneath the throne of JW.ORG!

  SALIVATION is by WORKS, not grace! Grace was the singer with Jefferson Airplane, and has no place in the lives of loyal Dubnauts!
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  Faded then apostate?

  by Teddnzo in

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  if someone has faded so they are not known as a jw for a few years there is no need to be disfellowshiped or announced that they are no longer a jw.. so they wouldn’t need to be shunned the same way as if they did a hard exit like writing a letter or something.. so if evidence arose that such a faded person was sinning there still would be no need to announce that they were no longer a jw the same as if they were known as a jw.

  family members and members of the congregation would not shun them?.

  what would happen if such a faded person became apostate?

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  Teddnzo opined, "...so they wouldn’t need to be shunned the same way..."
  
  Except that you are overlooking the main purpose of Disfellowshipping: PUNISHMENT and HUMILIATION.

  "The first step to becoming an apostate is baptism."

  
  
  
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  Is Tony Morris a Nonce / Pedophile

  by MebyonKernow in

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  2. friends

  this has just been posted on youtube regarding tony morris and the reason why he was removed as a gb member and 'relocated'.is tony morris a pedophile / nonce?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ahj9vxygkelet me know your thoughts down below.celtic.

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  BoogerMan offered, "I see REDDIT has stopped people from adding comments to the TM111 post. Wonder why?"

  One reason *could be* that Alexis Ohanian, one of the founders of Reddit, is the husband of the international JW star Serena Williams. Serena is a zealous defender of the wackadoodle cult she calls "the truth", even though she ignores most of her cult's rules.

  Maybe.
  
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  If JW is not the truth, then what is the true religion?

  by TxNVSue2023 in

  1. watchtower
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  even though i'm disfellowshiped ( & i belive wrongfully so).

  i still belive this is the truth.

  i have been d'f for about 8 months now and working on reinstatement.

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  There is no "true religion."

  All religions are based on the imaginations of humans around the world trying to answer the WHY of existence.

  I am an atheist.
  
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  More than 17 years of service to the XJW community!

  by Nathan Natas in

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  i want to take a moment to salute rick fearon, an "apostate" near boston massachusetts usa who more than 17 years ago started the sixscreens telenetwork on youtube.

  you can find it here: https://www (dot) youtube (dot) com/ (at) araretreat/streams.. like our benevolent host simon green here at jehovahs-witness.com, rick has not done his great work for his own financial enrichment or to collect followers for himself, as some xjw grifters have done and continue to do.. saturdays and sundays are the busy days at six screens, with call-in programs like:.

  * jw world news.

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  Thank you Diogenesister! That was a while ago!
  
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  Is JW.org going Broke?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  https://youtu.be/e6gh6w7v03y.

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  NotFormer queried, "So what are members called now? Obviously not parishioners. Congregants? What is the word used by the WT for R&F witnesses?"

  The official term for the Rank-and-File JWs is "Fools," usually with an obscene adjective attached.
  
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  How exactly did Jesus choose the organization in 1919?

  by Gman2001 in

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  did he appear to someone?.

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  What happened is this: Jesus and C. T. Russell got into the ethereal storage room for Passover wine, and Russell challenged Jesus to 1,000 rounds of "Rock, Paper, Scissors". Jesus promised Russell that if Russel won Jesus would say "Watch Tower is best."

  Amazingly, Russell won!

  That is really what happened, honest-to-God.

  Your salvation guaranteed! Send me your credit card information NOW! Rational people need not apply.
  
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  Why do JW apostates tend to be activists against the religion?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  j. arden writes.

  first of all an apostate is literally just someone who left.

  most jws are technically apostates from the religions they were raised in.

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  Q.: Why do JW apostates tend to be activists against the religion?

  A.: When persons are in great danger from a source that they do not suspect or are being misled by those they consider their friends, is it an unkindness to warn them? They may prefer not to believe the warning. They may even resent it. But does that free one from the moral responsibility to give that warning? -- THE WATCHTOWER January 15,1974
  
  
  
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  What does this even mean?

  by Blotty in

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  "the son is born of the father by generation, but generation should not be understood in the everyday sense.

  the son is derived from the father through pure spiritual generation, through the unlimited sharing of his essence.

  so, the birth of the son is an intellectual activity of god.".

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  The Book Of Fables is not meant to be understood, even by accused novelists.